Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/24/1999 01:32 PM Senate HES

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                 SB  48-STATE HEALTH INSURANCE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER called the Senate Health, Education and Social                                                                  
Services (HESS) Committee to order at 1:32 p.m. and announced that                                                              
SB 48 would be the first order of business, with Senator Jerry                                                                  
Mackie speaking on the bill.  CHAIRMAN MILLER noted a proposed                                                                  
committee substitute in the packets, and SENATOR MACKIE stated that                                                             
all of his testimony would address the draft CS.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER asked for a motion to adopt CSSB 48(HES).  SENATOR                                                              
PEARCE so moved, and without objection it was adopted.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR MACKIE thanked the committee for hearing the bill, and                                                                  
stated that Marianne Burke and others would comment on the details                                                              
of the legislation.  He introduced the bill at the request of the                                                               
Board of Directors of The Comprehensive Health Insurance                                                                        
Association(CHIA). The association makes individual health                                                                      
insurance available to residents who are high risks or are                                                                      
federally-defined eligible individuals.  The directors represent                                                                
the principle providers of health insurance in Alaska.  He said the                                                             
legislation has the support of the Division of Insurance.  The CHIA                                                             
was created by statute, with copies in the committee packets.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The legislation amends AS 21.55 to (1) allow the board greater                                                                  
flexibility to design more cost-effective health insurance plans                                                                
for individuals eligible for coverage under the CHIA plan; (2)                                                                  
increase the number of potential administrators of the CHIA by                                                                  
eliminating the requirement that the administrator be an insurer;                                                               
(3) allow greater flexibility in evaluating an administrator and in                                                             
setting the terms of the administrative contract; (4) simplify                                                                  
administration by decreasing the number of declinations required                                                                
for eligibility; (5) make technical corrections relating to the                                                                 
determination of premium rates, terminology, premium payment modes,                                                             
board member terms and voting at board meetings; and (6) give the                                                               
director of insurance a more effective and appropriate mechanism to                                                             
enforce the requirement that members pay their share of the CHIA                                                                
assessments on a timely basis.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKIE continued, saying the legislation will allow the                                                                 
board to manage CHIA in a more cost-effective and efficient manner.                                                             
It also is particularly important in light of the new federal                                                                   
requirements, and the use of CHIA as the mechanism to guarantee                                                                 
portability of health insurance coverage to federally eligible                                                                  
individuals.  He pointed out the zero fiscal note from the Division                                                             
of Insurance and a detailed sectional analysis in the packets.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR ELTON questioned why in Section 7 100% for medical can be                                                               
paid, but only 50% for the treatment of mental and nervous                                                                      
conditions when some mental conditions like schizophrenia and                                                                   
bipolar need continuous medication.  SENATOR MACKIE deferred to Ms.                                                             
Burke for an answer.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER asked Senator Mackie if any groups are opposed to                                                               
the bill.  SENATOR MACKIE replied there are none.  A lot of these                                                               
are technical changes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN MILLER invited the on-line witnesses to testify.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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MR. CECIL VYKERK, Executive Vice President and Chief Actuary for                                                                
Mutual of Omaha insurance companies, Omaha Nebraska, stated he's                                                                
been involved with the CHIA board since its inception in 1992.  The                                                             
legislation in Alaska passed in 1992 and they began insuring the                                                                
first policyholders in 1993.  The board is composed of five insurer                                                             
representatives that currently include Blue Cross Alaska, Aetna,                                                                
and Mutual of Omaha; and two consumer representatives from Wasilla,                                                             
including Sandra Cole who is on-line today.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. VYKERK continued, it's a very important plan for Alaskans who                                                               
are unable to purchase health insurance through the private market                                                              
due to preexisting conditions and other factors.  It's also                                                                     
important to meet the requirements of the HIP legislation passed by                                                             
the federal government several years ago.  A group that included                                                                
the Division of Insurance worked hard to make the legislation                                                                   
successful.  The bill is largely a collection of technical                                                                      
adjustments to make it easier to manage the pool in a cost-                                                                     
efficient manner.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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MS. SANDRA COLE, Public Representative on CHIA, stated she has been                                                             
on the board for two years.  She spoke to the changes in the bill,                                                              
noting the one vote for the public advocates.  She asserted that to                                                             
change the $200 deductible to a $500 minimum is not a problem for                                                               
the public.  She said there is a need to keep the premiums at the                                                               
current high insurance rates in Alaska.  In order for people to                                                                 
afford this program, which many including herself cannot, there                                                                 
must be changes in other areas to decrease the cost of the program.                                                             
She discussed hospitalization, competition, and language changes                                                                
including the use of age as a definition for premiums and the                                                                   
elimination of vague wording such as "excessive" and "inadequate"                                                               
which are impossible to define.  MS. COLE said in summary that the                                                              
program is vital to the people of Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN MILLER announced to the Close Up students present in the                                                               
audience that the committee is considering SB 48.  SENATOR WILKEN                                                               
asked where the students were from.  They each stood and introduced                                                             
themselves, and they were all from Akiak and Akiachuk.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY stated that he is unsure what the bill does, and he                                                               
wondered if it creates a board which develops policy with money                                                                 
appropriated in the bill passed by the legislature last year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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MS. MARIANNE BURKE, Director, Division of Insurance, stated this                                                                
company was created by the legislature in 1993, separate from state                                                             
government without state subsidy.  She said it is  critical for the                                                             
many people who cannot get health insurance, no matter the cost,                                                                
and gives them a chance to participate in the cost of their own                                                                 
insurance.  The board only collects about 20% of the total cost,                                                                
the remainder of the cost being assessed against the writers of                                                                 
insurance in the state.  As a condition for doing business in the                                                               
state, the insurance writers agree to assist in funding this                                                                    
mechanism.  Without it, most of these people would be on Medicaid.                                                              
They aren't paying much, but for many it's a point of pride and                                                                 
personal dignity that they are participating.  They include people                                                              
with incurable or terminal diseases such as AIDS, cancer, or                                                                    
hemophilia who cannot get insurance.  It is not a perfect program,                                                              
but it provides the care and allows individuals to participate, and                                                             
it spreads the cost over all the insureds in the state of Alaska.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY stated that it creates a catastrophic policy, and he                                                              
asked about the deductibles.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE replied there are a variety of deductibles ranging from                                                               
$500 to $10,000 which the individual selects according to what he                                                               
can afford to pay.  It is also geared to age.  There is no other                                                                
underwriting.  She clarified that the individual pays a premium but                                                             
it only covers about 20% of the total cost incurred.  The CHIA is                                                               
the insurance company, funded in part by the premiums and in part                                                               
by the writers of insurance in Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY asked if the cost spread to the insurance companies                                                               
is an equal distribution.  MS. BURKE answered that it is based on                                                               
the pro-rata share of the premiums they write on any health policy                                                              
in the state.  The company writing more premiums than any other                                                                 
would get the biggest share of the assessment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY asked how much this is going to cost and how much                                                                 
each company is going to be assessed.  MS. BURKE responded since                                                                
the inception of CHIA in 1993, approximately $7 million has been                                                                
assessed.  In 1993, $250.0 was assessed for seed money.  Originally                                                             
there were very few participants.  The assessment is always made                                                                
based on the cost of the plan which is monitored by the board.                                                                  
Within its statutory constraints the board tries to control those                                                               
costs, like hiring a case manager to help negotiate discounts with                                                              
the hospitals.  The assessments have been as high as $1.5 million,                                                              
and currently Blue Cross is the largest writer in the state,                                                                    
covering about 38% of that.  Back when the state was insured, Blue                                                              
Cross and Aetna covered roughly 70% of the cost.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR KELLY discussed Senator Murkowski's Medicaid bill that                                                                  
passed last year, with millions accruing to the state to cover                                                                  
people at 200% of the poverty level, depending on the number of                                                                 
children.  If you made in excess of $37,000, you were eligible for                                                              
Medicaid. He asked if that provision makes this legislation                                                                     
obsolete.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE replied no, because it was specifically directed at                                                                   
uninsured children.  They may be uninsured for many reasons, but                                                                
seldom because they can't be insured because of a medical                                                                       
condition.  This plan, on the other hand, is set up for individuals                                                             
-not families or groups - who have a medical condition that                                                                     
precludes them from buying a policy on the open market.  They are                                                               
two separate programs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKIE clarified that the legislature in 1992 determined                                                                
that insurance companies, as part of doing business here,                                                                       
contribute back to those folks who cannot get insurance for medical                                                             
conditions, to take care of catastrophic illnesses.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked why in the existing language in Section 7 there                                                             
is a differentiation between physical health and mental health,                                                                 
with only 50% coverage of mental health disorders which may be                                                                  
physically based.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE replied that she cannot explain that.  It was written                                                                 
back when it was the norm in writing and structuring a policy, and                                                              
the coverage has not been changed since that time.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON noted that Representative Gary Davis and Senator                                                                  
Torgerson have some recommendations for the Mental Health Parity                                                                
Task Force.  CHAIRMAN MILLER also noted that the bill has a                                                                     
referral to Labor & Commerce after it leaves HESS.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BURKE stated that the division supports the bill.  The board is                                                             
charged with running the plan as cost-effectively as they can and                                                               
it's to their advantage to do so because their companies foot the                                                               
bill.  Right now the board pays the highest administrative cost in                                                              
the country.  Only one company has been willing to act as                                                                       
administrator.  If the division can help them have more choices in                                                              
that area to lower the cost of the plan, more people will benefit                                                               
from it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN moved CSSB 48(HES) out with individual                                                                           
recommendations and the attached zero fiscal note.  CHAIRMAN MILLER                                                             
asked for objection, and hearing none, CSSB 48(HES) passed from                                                                 
committee with individual recommendations.                                                                                      

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